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Comparing Facebook Live to Periscope – Which Is Better For You?

As you know social media is my thing.  I spend the majority of my time creating content to put out online for our studio and other businesses from time to time.  I train people on how to use social media and very often the photography business leads to discussions about branding with our clients who come here for professional headshots to market themselves.  So it makes sense for me to write articles on the things I learn about smallbiz marketing and in this case we’ll be tackling our two primary Live Video apps that we use – Facebook Live and Periscope (which is also the platform that is owned by and powers Twitter Live).

Facebook Live

If you follow us at all or have been to this blog before you likely know that we are heavy live streamers on Periscope and more recently Facebook Live as well.  There are plenty of other Live Streaming platforms (Instagram, YouNow, Twitch, Busker just to name a few) and several popular ones which have already come and gone in the last two years (Meerkat, Blab.IM, and MeVee to name a few).  For the purposes of this article I am limiting my thoughts to Periscope and Facebook Live.  Just a little bit of comparing and contrasting of the two to help you understand the differences and how you might use them both (or not).  Let’s start with the “feel” of each:

The “Feel” of the two platforms and the Live element

Periscope

Part of the reason we just enjoy Periscope more is because we have always found it to be a much more visceral experience.  The sense of community is significantly stronger because the comments are flowing in real time.  As a viewer when you type a comment in, the broadcaster sees it immediately and you can become a true part of the flow and the conversation.  In addition you can tap on someone else’s comment and comment directly to them, so the conversations that happen between all the viewers make it a much more social scene.  If you want your broadcasts to be more interactive with a lot of audience participation Periscope has the edge.  Besides, Periscope is a Live Video platform and community…..and nothing else.  The people who find you there are generally looking to interact with a live broadcaster.  That’s the only reason they go to that app because that’s all that’s there.  You can tap the screen to give “hearts” that float up the side of the screen and they accumulate.  It’s like a colorful fun applause!  Periscope is very much “for the moment”.

Facebook Live

Facebook Live is not as enjoyable as Periscope for us, but what it lacks in feel it makes up in effectiveness in other ways (more on that in a bit).  Meanwhile most of what Periscope is Facebook Live is not.  The comments come through in a delay.  It can take a while for your broadcast to be seen in the feed among all the other status updates, memes, tired political arguments etc.  Heck Facebook even tells you “keep broadcasting – we’re building an audience for you” or something to that effect as if to admit “we know no one is probably here yet but just keep going” hehe…  The viewers can tap a “like” button (along with the other emotion buttons) but they float upwards a bit and then awkwardly make a left turn zooming sideways and they don’t accumulate.  They are actually more distracting then fun.  As a viewer you can’t comment directly to another viewer – you can “like” a comment or just use the person’s name you’re talking to and comment to them assuming they’ll see it, but it’s just not the same.  You end up a little closer to “watching mode” than in “active participation mode” in my opinion.  Now as a broadcaster if you would rather have the space to talk and present without the distraction of comments or expectation of the audience of you responding to all of their comments in real time than this could be a better platform for you.  Sometimes when I want to show our clients and potential portrait clients examples of what we’re doing I’ll broadcast here.  The video becomes a little bit more of a distilled version of our services without the shenanigans – more “professional” if you will.  If Periscope is “for the moment”, then Facebook Live is “for the news feed”.

Reach

Periscope

For us Periscope has a broader reach globally.  We’ve grown our community way faster than we ever have on Facebook and our viewers come from all over the globe.  New people we don’t know pop into our broadcasts from various countries every time we go live, and that just does not happen on Facebook.  The audiences started to grow pretty fast on Periscope and we have over 21,000 followers on Periscope which is way more than any other social media platform for us by far.  We gained over half of those from making the “trending list” on the app, but even without that we grew more followers organically than anywhere else in the span of less than two years.  By comparison we have only 1652 followers on our FB business page.  Our Periscope broadcasts tend to average between 500-2500 viewers live and then usually another 50-100 who watch the replay, but people only watch the replays usually for just a few hours after the broadcast is over.

Facebook Live

Our Facebook Live viewers tend to be more localized because our following on our business page has been built over several years mainly with our local clients.  So the makeup of our audience base is much different.  Most of our actual photography clients are not Twitter or Periscope users, but almost all of them are on Facebook.  As I mentioned before depending on the nature of your business model your audience may look way different from another business.  But here is where Facebook Live starts to reveal some major advantages – you can extend the reach quite a bit after your broadcast is over by tagging people in the video and boosting it in a very targeted way just like any other status update.  This is a big advantage for Facebook Live.  You can reach however many people you like for as many days as you want if you want to spend a few dollars to boost it – it’s not that pricey for a little boost.

Repurposing and Editing in the App

With either of these apps you can mirror your smartphone with a desktop and record the broadcasts with the comments intact or just save the raw videos to your device, edit them and repurpose them wherever you like.  But within the apps themselves being able to edit and extend their life can be a big benefit.

Periscope

You are extremely limited here.  You can have a Periscope go out as a tweet and you can then retweet it if you like.  You can embed the broadcast from Twitter into a blog post which we do all the time, or you can pin your broadcasted tweet for additional exposure so it’s at the top of your page if people visit your twitter profile, but those are your main options…  You cannot choose or change the thumbnail image that will represent your broadcast in the feed, nor can you tag people after the fact.  

Facebook Live

To me this is where Facebook Live really shines and why I said earlier that Facebook Live is truly for the newsfeed.  Once you’re done with the broadcast you can go back in and re-title the video, tag people who may have appeared in or been mentioned in the video, you can give the video keyword tags for searchability, you can select from 10 random thumbnails Facebook generates or upload your own.  These screenshots say it all – all of this is available in post-production right in Facebook.  NONE of this is available with Periscope.

Facebook Live

That’s the first drop down, and then if you select “Edit Post” you get this…

Facebook Live

Notice above that I selected “8/10” or the eighth thumbnail of 10 choices.  I picked one of Ally and Angela gazing at baby Aubrey – so cute!  With Periscope if the image it gave me was a bad angle of my face (is that possible?  haha) I’d be stuck with it and it wouldn’t represent the content at all.  So there are tons of options…. and with the overall audience on Facebook and the continued resources Facebook pours into Facebook Live you can’t really ignore it even if Periscope is way more fun.  Keep in mind that these are just the basics – you could easily write a book about how to use both platforms.

But don’t just take my word for it.  I reached out to 4 different pros who are my peers and friends.  We’ve met all of them through live streaming on Periscope.  All 4 of them continue to use both platforms consistently so I knew they would be perfect for this article…

What others are saying…

Rachel Moore

Facebook Live

Founder of really.social, founder of #LetsLivestream & Letslivestream.live, and #BusinessUnusual & businessunusual.live

“Facebook Live may be touted as the best platform for overall livestreaming, but Periscope is uniquely poised for authentic engagement. If you miss a comment on Periscope, you missed it. Facebook is more asynchronous, allowing users to revisit threads and comment after the video has ended. However, both platforms have quality content in mind as they continue to expand production capabilities for their users.”

*Doug’s note – notice Rachel’s take on the difference in the type of engagement which basically echoes my take about Periscope being “for the moment” and Facebook “for the feed”.

Leslie Nance

Facebook LiveCancer Survivor, host of amazing cooking shows and food blogger at go2kitchens.com, shorty awards nominee 2017

“Periscope is where I gather my followers with my show “Lunch with Leslie”. There is less clutter on Periscope and I have found it easier to build a very authentic following there. I broadcast on schedule, every weekday at noon. After a few visits they want more so I ask them to sign up for my VIP page, g2kvip.com which amounts to a ton of freebies and they get access to a private Facebook group. This is where we continue the conversations after the Periscope show.  It’s a powerful community building tool.  I do live FB broadcast in the private group that are directed at my fan base and what they want to hear.  It is a great way to keep the fly wheel turning.  I love Periscope! It’s real time genius in my opinion!  Facebook Live is a good tool but it would not be where I would send someone that is new to live broadcasting, UNLESS they had a huge fan base there already.”

*Doug’s note – Leslie refers to Periscope being “real time genius” – for the moment!  FB Live is where she is going deeper to continue conversations and conversions with a private FB group.  Leslie takes advantage of the ability to broadcast directly to her FB group which I didn’t even get into earlier – that’s a BIG deal (you can create groups on Periscope to broadcast to as well but they are not nearly as effective as a FB group).

John “Chocolate Johnny” Kapos

Facebook LiveSmall Business owner of Perfection Chocolates in Sydney, Australia, speaker and business advisor at chocolatejohnny.com

“Facebook Live is total business so Perfection Chocolates only does chocolates and sweets there – customers, behind the scenes, products, promos etc. etc.   I’ve got a separate Chocolate Johnny FB Live and on that I do more of the fun stuff but not as much.  I don’t use it as much.  I use Periscope Chocolate Johnny totally for everything,  BUT – the big thing is I’ll say to everyone ‘hey guys go to my FB Live at Perfection Chocolates in a half hour and I’m going to be there showing you some products or sales or discounts’ – something like that.  So that’s the great thing – when you’ve got 4-5 thousand people watching you can get an extra 10-15 people coming over to a FB Live broadcast”

*Doug’s note – notice this is somewhat in line with my comments above that you can present your services without as much distraction on FB live – it seems to me that’s Johnny’s strategy in the last part of his comment is to bring people from the fun Periscope show over to FB Live where he can present his services and products and some good conversions can happen.  He has fun on Periscope but FB is more business.  See a pattern here?

Tawanna B Smith

Facebook LiveDigital Marketer and speaker – owner of MGT Travel Media and travel blogger and planner – creator of Mom’s Guide To Travel

FB Live and Periscope differ greatly on the engagement side for me, personally.  I am still in building mode with FB Live on business page so the viewership and live video interaction is low.  If I were to go live on my personal page it’s a completely different experience because I have way more friends than I do fans and the notifications work more in your favor on your personal page than they do on your business page. The benefit of using Facebook Live over Periscope is the ease of repurposing the content, receiving comments even after the live broadcast has ended, the number of third party tools built specifically for Facebook Live, and the advertising angle (advertising before you go on, setting notifications, advertising a live video after it’s done, and soon-to-come mid-roll ads). I’m not sure if Periscope even has any of this stuff on the horizon but I do love the in-app singular purpose of Periscope that evades Facebook which is now trying to be all things (social) to everybody.

*Doug’s note – Tawanna emphasized the advertising angle and the ease of repurposing the content on FB Live, including the fact that viewers can continue to comment after the broadcast is over (another great point in FB’s favor) but once again she goes back to that “in-app singular purpose of Periscope” that FB Live just doesn’t have.

I encourage you all to click on the links and follow these brilliant creators on all the different platforms wherever they are!

So Which is Better?  Who wins?

Well I guess it depends right?  Who’s the winner between an apple and an orange?  I don’t think there is a winner here per se.  What are you trying to accomplish?  Let that guide you as to which one “wins” for you.  As I have mentioned we use both for different reasons and will continue to do so.  Please comment with any other tips or creative ways you use the platforms or ask whatever questions you may have, and we’ll see you on Facebook Live and Periscope!

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Our Amazing Experience in San Francisco at Summit Live! Part 1

Summit Live was an incredible experience.  Yes it was.  Just simple truth.  It is hard to describe unless you were there what it was like, but I’ll just say that the first night I had a moment where I looked around and was just really overwhelmed.  One of those feelings that will stay with you for a long long time, and I swear I’m not just being dramatic.  It was such a special feeling to be a part of such a great community with people you have been enjoying spending time with, learning from, laughing with, and admiring virtually for months, and then suddenly you’re hugging them one by one….by one, by one, by one, by one – one favorite to the next to the next.  Your head starts to spin and you start to feel this buzz and you know this is a really special moment in your life.  It might sound a little ridiculous but that’s the truth.  At least for me it is and I’m not embarrassed to say it.  I’m pretty sure Ally felt the same way.

Let’s Let The Broadcasts Tell The Story…

We started out pretty early with a flight that connected in Chicago where we did a quick shortened version of our morning show from the airport.  We were so hyped!  Note: these replays do not contain the comments that were made in the broadcasts… when we posted this originally they were embedded from Katch.me and that website no longer exists.  These are the raw feeds that we now have on our YouTube channel.

Summit Live

Arriving at the Park Central!

 

When we finally arrived in San Francisco and walked up to the front entrance of the Park Central Hotel we had our first surreal moment as a crew of our people came flooding out the door right at that moment for hugs all around!

We still needed to check in and we had a few hours before the festivities so we went off on our own for a while.  San Francisco is amazing and Ally had never been there.  I had been there once a little over 22 years ago and was eager to get back.  We started out at the Ferry Building and hung out on our own where we ate at The Slanted Door and sampled some ice cream from Humphry Slocombe and some toffee from GL Alfieri – both delicious.

 

From there we walked to North Beach to meet up with my old college buddy Jeff Meisel for a cup of coffee at Réveille Coffee Co. before we headed back to the Park Central Hotel to start the party…

Summit Live

Frisco Frameables Selfie Time…

Summit LIVE!!!

Once we went down to the opening party that’s when that overwhelming moment happened that I was referring to earlier…  and at that point I had to start scoping.  I have gone through and listed the people who appear in the broadcast at what time marker in case there is anyone you would like to see:

@YoPickless appears at the 4:53 mark.  LOVE this girl – she was handing out #Yopickles #PassTheTat tattoos and she is beautiful in person!

@BenLeonard appears at about the 8:33 mark.  What a nice guy he is!  Pretty much everyone was really cool.

@CathyHackl at 9:40 – one of our closest friends in the community and she is expecting their third child!  You’ve seen her and her family appear on this blog here.  Love her!

@VictoriaTaylUK at about 12:10 – Vikki was on the small business panel with us and what a sweetheart.  We actually first met her on another live streaming app called Blab.  She’s great!  Had a lot of fun with her.

@KatieLance and @TigerwonNYC appear at 12:46.  Katie is my favorite social media “guru” on Periscope – her blog is awesome and I always learn something new from her.  She really knows her stuff.  Tiger we had met before at a meetup in NYC last summer and she interviewed me later on during Summit Live.

@TerryLWhite shows up at around 14:20.  He was on the photography panel that Ally moderated and he actually used to have a photography studio in Troy not far from our studio.  He’s currently based in Atlanta and he’s an Adobe expert.  Good guy!

@RyanSteinolfson aka “Periscope Ryan” appears right after Terry at around the 15 minute mark.  A digital marketer based in San Diego, I felt a little bad that my Wolverines destroyed his Gators in the Citrus Bowl – okay maybe not that bad, but we hung out and talked shop quite a bit over the 4 days we were there.  What a great dude.

@JelCruz at 16:33 – this is funny – one of those whose name you’ve seen but don’t recognize right away in person!  What a sweetie!  Got to hang with her a little bit during summit.

@EthanPariseau shows up right around the 20 minute mark – we “hang out” with Ethan often on our morning show.  Good guy from the state to the south – Ohio…

@KristianCotta pops in right after that around 20:14 – personal trainer, social media consultant and Washington State alum who is still bitter about the 1998 Rose Bowl… (hahaha).  Had a great time with this guy!

@MarissaDunlap shows up at the 22 minute mark and of course Ally and I had to “sing her into” the scope as we do on our regular scopes.  Marissa lives not far from San Fran and she can sing some mean opera.

@ChrisStrub at the 22:50 mark is known for just completing an intense trek of volunteering with youth organizations in all 50 states!  What a bad ass.

@AECJosh is one of the three creators of @TheEditorTV which is a network on Periscope that we’ve been on a few times and he shows up at the 24:26 mark.  He was there with his lovely wife @TheCraftyCutie

@JoisyGirl555 – Lulu appears at 24:50.  We met her in NYC at our summer meetup last year and she’s a riot.  It was great to see her again!

@ChocolateJohnny appears at about the 27 minute mark.  Owner of Perfection Chocolates in Sydney, Australia, he moderated our small business panel and did a fantastic job.  As a small business owner like us we have connected and have been bouncing ideas off of each other for months.  He brought us some chocolate and it was fantastic!

At around 30 minutes we met a couple of really nice guys whose names I can’t remember as of this writing!!!  Dangit….  if someone lets me know I’ll update this post!

@JasonStolken and his beautiful wife @RosieStolken appear at 32:42.  We’ve talked on the phone before but had not met until this moment.  Great couple and we got to spend a decent amount of time with them.  One of the best, funny and genuinely good guys in the community.  He even gave the classic “high face” in my broadcast!  Haha!

@KeiphMaurice is the creator of www.playforstuff.com which is a network of game shows across Periscope where you can play for prizes and our Play For Stuff show should be debuting next week!  Keith makes his appearance at 37:58.

@MrASingh is an artist and a really deep thinker – he does a lot of inspirational philosophical scopes from the UK and he appears at 38:50.  I of course had to do a little British accent trolling on Amrit when I saw him…

@DaveGonz2012 I met at the 40:30 mark – don’t actually know Dave very well but a nice guy and Ally and Dave  had an opportunity later to talk a little photography.

@EricNeitzel at about the 41:20 mark is an awesome guy.  He was on the photography panel as well and we have been Peri-friends with Eric for a while.  He has used his photography to help document and provide information from choppers during wildfires among many other things.

@SandyChoiRadio at the 42 minute mark is definitely one of my favorite scopers.  I’ve spent a lot of time late night just hanging with Sandy on her scopes listening to her freestyle, play guitar, sing, rant, and whatever else she feels like.  The girl is fearless and will say whatever is on her mind.  She keeps it real and we were so glad we got to spend a lot of time with her on this trip.

@DieterDieterVB at the 42:40 mark – what a sweetheart of a guy.  A photography enthusiast, Ally was able to help him out with a couple of tips and we were happy we were able to hang with him as well.

Mr. @Ryan_A_Bell himself – the creator of the Periscope Community Summit and one of our most notorious trolls – creator of the @FlammableFeces account appears at about the 43:30 minute mark.  All joking aside he’s been a big supporter of ours and it was great to meet him in person.

@AfricaMiranda gave one of the most inspiring talks you’ll hear as one of the keynote speakers at summit.  A beauty inside and out and a very talented and accomplished girl – we’ve been fans of hers for a while and she appears at the 44:45 mark.

Whew…..  okay.  Here are a couple fun iPhone photos from that first night…

Summit Live

Doug & Ally with @LynnRose!

Summit Live

Doug & Ally with @JennyQ and @MsCandyBlog

Summit Live

With Courtney Harvey (next to Ally) and Africa Miranda (far right)

We spent a lot of time with @LynnRose (wonderful actress and singer), @JennyQ – Jennifer Quinn who is a host of The Daily Q on Blab.IM, and @MsCandyBlog – one of the most entertaining people on Periscope with her amazing candy review shows, throughout those 4 days – love each one of them!  We also loved meeting @CourtTheTrendLA – Courtney Harvey who is an E! News producer and host of The Trend LA, and of course Africa Miranda as we mentioned before!

Okay that will do it for now – the next post we will get into the panels we participated in as well as meeting more friends including Sock Cop and the Periscope Puppet….  stay tuned!!!!

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Frameable Faces Photography is a small biz retail mom & pop shop of Doug&Ally Cohen located in the Orchard Mall in West Bloomfield, Michigan, United States Of America!
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Ally & Doug can be reached at the studio at tel:248-790-7317 or emailed at mailto:info@frameablefaces.com
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